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Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

Last post Thu, Aug 07 2008, 12:40 AM by LesStrat. 9 replies.
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  •  Sat, Jul 19 2008, 5:58 AM 17890

    Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    Hello

    Can someone tell me if Rik will be working on getting his voice in shape to sing those incredible high's he used to hit back in the early 80's as I don't think I can enjoy Triumph without hearing that incredible power and high range that rocks.

    I am so worried that age may have stolen the golden voice from Rik like it did for Steve Watch of Kansas. What I am really hoping for is that Rik is just Rusty from singing more mellow stuff the last 20 years and will now work to get that upper register cranking again with ear splitting highs that we must have for it to be a true Triumph show

      

  •  Sat, Jul 19 2008, 7:56 AM 17892 in reply to 17890

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    I wouldn't expect the same vocal harmony from the 1980s. There is no way Rik can pull off the vocal range that he had 20 years ago. Still I think the band is doing a good job despite not playing together for 20 years.

    What Rik has done is change the vocal keys to compliment the song rather than try to replicate what he did in 1983. 

  •  Sat, Jul 19 2008, 4:19 PM 17900 in reply to 17892

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    I wasn't present at either concert, so I don't know how the guys sounded "live", but I did see & hear Rik perform at the benefit for his brother and his voice sounded strong (albeit tuned down a notch). 

    I also noticed that the vocals on most of the Youtube videos was sub-par.  I don't place a lot of faith in the mics on the camcorders, add to that all of the people singing along, background noise, sheer volume coming out of the speakers causing blow-outs and I think you have a recipe for a pretty crappy recording.

    Here are some recent clips of Rik in a more intimate setting where he sounds great (granted, the audio/video quality is not great, but he still sounds good):

    Waterfront Festival 2008 - Sunday June 15, 2008

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAaBxtLAb8&NR=1

    The Arts Music Store - June 2008

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daWhpk58gqU

    Hold On - November 2007 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQTw9yCr-lE&feature=related 

    -Dave 

     

     

  •  Sun, Jul 20 2008, 5:51 PM 17911 in reply to 17890

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    CoolHello  i think he did real wall with his voice in "Never Surrender "just like back then i am sure he has a lot of suprises in stor for the tour next year keep up your faith as my man Rik says in his song
    Patricia -RikEmmett-Fan
  •  Mon, Jul 21 2008, 3:23 PM 17918 in reply to 17892

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    JerseyJim:

    I wouldn't expect the same vocal harmony from the 1980s. There is no way Rik can pull off the vocal range that he had 20 years ago. Still I think the band is doing a good job despite not playing together for 20 years.

    What Rik has done is change the vocal keys to compliment the song rather than try to replicate what he did in 1983. 

     

     Agreed.

    I'd also like to add: Triumph is now just another gig for Rik. He's incredibley busy with other projects and work with other artists so it would not do him any good to blow out his voice for the sake of a few gigs with Triumph.

    While Triumph may do a few select dates next year and "maybe" a new album, Rik solo career will remain on-going.

  •  Mon, Jul 21 2008, 6:18 PM 17919 in reply to 17900

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    Well here is my 2 cents worth on this one.

    Riks voice cannot be expected to sound like he is 30 years younger. But he sounds really good.

    The biggest issue with the recent Triumph performances is the decision to tune down for all of the songs. In the videos above you can hear the key is changed, more like the original recordings.

    I was like most quite surprised with the sound of Riks voice based on the you tube video performances from Rocklahoma and Sweden. It looks like he is struggling to stay in tune, and doesnt want to break out the screaming highs we all are used to hearing.

    I would be willing to bet singing an entire set in a higher key would cause strain on the vocal cords. And since some of the songs had not been sung in years, they would be hard to perform, without extensive practice.

    I hope if the tour happens that the songs and set list are reworked to provide a mix of vocals, some in the original key IE the performance of hold on that we are used to, more to Gil, again who sounds very good but practice is needed, and some of the newer versions of songs that are really tough to hit vocally without causing strain.

    Most important! The guys are performing againBig Smile and practice will make perfect again.

    Cheers

     

  •  Mon, Jul 28 2008, 8:37 PM 18041 in reply to 17890

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    There are ways good vocal coaching can bring voices "back from the dead". Not saying Rik's voice is shot...far from it. But even at his "advanced age" , with the right training, he could be back to 90% of his prior range. It would require a tremendous amount of work with the right coach...lots of grueling physical exercises. I've been there...it works, but not so much fun.
  •  Mon, Jul 28 2008, 10:07 PM 18042 in reply to 17890

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    Rik as well as Gil will be fine with proper preperation and rehearsal (IF?) They decide to tour.Yes they will have to change key and presentation but should be fine.

    A more important question that comes to my mind is what is with the second guitarist?

  •  Mon, Jul 28 2008, 11:15 PM 18043 in reply to 18042

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    Triumph has felt they the live sound is fuller and better sounding with a 2nd guitar player. ( since 1986 )

    Rick Santers and now Dave Dunlop 

     

    Hank 


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  •  Thu, Aug 07 2008, 12:40 AM 18105 in reply to 18043

    Re: Huge Triumph fan since 1979! I have a question about Rik

    1. Rik said in the July 11 interview that he had been suffering from a migraine the day of the show in Sweden.

    2. Steve Walsh blew his voice out more as a function of drug abuse than vocal abuse.  The combination almost ruined him.  (BTW, I'm a HUGE Kansas fan, but the truth is the truth).

     3. I don't think Rik's voice is "gone." It might not be exactly the same, but overall he has sounded good in recent years.

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